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I look at the budget deficit. If it doesn't fall, it means that GDP growth did not reduce the interest bill. Meaning that either dent has gone up or GDP has <not> gone up.
The rest I leave it to Schwartsman.
Maybe, but it grew from 55,5% GDP to 58,2 (4,8%+)! But concerning statistics I am not able to discus, I just accept the officials.
That is the key point. Lulinda did everything they told him to do, and is still <down under>.
May be he tries a different approach now.
That was bollocks, but that was the bollocks that allowed Brazil to sissue 34 year paper at 8.5% and have 7 bn in demand.
MD Palocci should have given those dummies the whole amount.
Well Savo dont over-argue yr point. Yours is an accurate description not only of Brasil, but also of the US, France, Italy, Germany, Japan and even our beloved AAA Ecuador. Accurate is not always relevant. Brazil's attitude towards legal rights and debt management are radically different from Argentina's. Sofar.
I don't .....
How do you measure GDP....
How do you add up, steel production, railway travel, tourism, construction, haircutting, etc...
It is impossible. So they add prices paid.
Now take a guy, lend him 100 euros payabel in 10 years and he will spend them in the Corte Ingles.
GDP will tell you that GDP has grown because Corte Ingles sold more.
All mathematical gimmicks.
Brazil's debt is growing at its coupon rate. The rest is Alexandre Schwartsman mathematical illusion.
Brazil is .......crap too.
<its debt annually at its coupon rate> as I posted last week, the 8%+ debt was nominal, I mean not relative to GDP wich also had nominal growth!
Only repeating: I tend to agree with you but sometimes you seem misled!
;~)
Do you compare Brazil with Russia????????
and Ukriane with argi??????????
in which world do you live?
Brazil becoming Russia was the 2003 <mantra> of the <monkeys>.
Brazil borrows and Russia doesn't. It like comparing water and oil.
I think that summarises it fairly.
Medical Doctor devenu economist Mr Palocci is also on the taking?
But wasn't Lulinda all about honesty and transparency?
Brasil is the same <yesterday, today and forever>!
Can anyone help with realistic Brz 27 market??
"Informe Econômico
CARLA FALCÃO (Interina)
Se houver amanhã
O fim de semana será de muita tensão para o presidente Lula e sua equipe.
Corriam ontem os principais gabinetes do Executivo as matérias que três
revistas semanais publicarão neste fim de semana. Quem viu o material
garante que se trata de um verdadeiro arsenal de acusações contra o governo
petista. De envolvimento com donos de bingos na Região Sul a novidades sobre
o escândalo Waldomiro Diniz.
Incluindo a hipótese de envolvimento do Ministro da Fazenda, Antônio Palocci, com o caso Celso Daniel."
... is that plunge linked?
we are witnessing the 21st buying opportunity in 21 days!
...lower lows in Brasil savonarola!
They are now between a rock and a hard place. Their bankers told their clients how fantastic brazil has become. And their clients bought new Brazil bonds at 8.5% YTM.
But monkeys bought too. And then continued buying to support the market.
Now the same invesotrs are coming back to liquidate their positions, so <monkeys> have to give a bid. If they don't and let prices fall their own positions will be marked to market at a substantial lose.
They should once and for all accept the fact that they were wrong, liquidate, and start from a lower level.
Brazil hasn't changed.
To buy brazil?
Certainly not.
thanks to BRADYNET NOT ALLOWING US TO MODIFY PASSWORDS...
mau...mau
opti of course it's orth the good cash (or margin)...remember for danni cash is a COST and it burns away...
just can't figure out why melting away invested in EMB doesn't qualify as a cost for his cash (or margin)...
It looks too much even for a Brazialian bear like me.
The real fell 1.2 percent to 3.0000 per dollar at 7:44 a.m. New York time, boosting its decline in 30 days to 5.4 percent, the worst performance against the dollar among the 16 most-traded currencies.
Earlier it fell as much as 1.3 percent to 3.0035 per dollar, its lowest level since Aug. 21, when it traded at 3.0100 per dollar.
The April Bovespa Stock Index future contract fell 760, or 3.4 percent, to 20,430 on Sao Paulo's BM&F commodities and futures exchange.
Brazil's benchmark bond maturing in 2040 fell 2.80 cents on the dollar to 100.00, boosting the yield to 11.00 percent, according to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.<<<>>>>
So the 95% is necessary for financial reasons, as Gal management reasonably anticipates that holdouts wont likely be bound by the exchange termr and would be free to sue for full payment.
Of the US$ 1 bn of bank debt to be exchanged, 692 million have tendered their loans.
Of the $ 350 million of bonds to be exchanged, 262 million have tendered their bonds.
That makes a 70.6% overall, already above the APE 66.7% limit, but still below the 95% that the bank wants to reach.
They have extended the offer for one month until March 17th.
Danni, no problem, if anyone should be worried about your trades this is you and your wife. :--)))
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