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07-25-05 wally: <what difference is there between the j and the g in terms of pronunciation?> i don't know because i am not a spaniard :~)

07-24-05 victorn: wally a famous spanish writer is the one who liked the "j as j" spelling, juan ramon jimenez and tried to have the language changed. for example he wrote a book called "Segunda Antoloj�a". this is incorrect as the proper spelling is antologia but he didn't care. :-))

07-24-05 victorn: wally, jorge... what difference is there between the j and the g in terms of pronunciation? no difference. but the g in this example sounds like j, so it should be spelled jorje.

07-24-05 victorn: wally, "g" sound is the same whether it's gato or guerra. so why do we need the u in the later? the dieresis on the u in ciguena is only necessary because we don't spell guerra as gerra. if we did there would be no need for the dieresis. :-)

07-24-05 wally: <jorge --> jorje> what about adopting the german dialect version <Schorsch>?

:~))

07-24-05 wally: <guerra --> gerra> that would mean breaking a rule and those studying spanish would not know how to pronounce the word.

07-24-05 wally: <<cig�e�a> should go without the di�resis on the u> that's how we were taught <victor>.

07-24-05 victorn: wally i don't agree... :-))

07-24-05 victorn: wally ...i forgot and <cig�e�a> should go without the di�resis on the u. cigue�a.

07-24-05 wally: <do away with the silent h once and for all> i don't agree <victor> as it would be quite odd for me to address <oozing maniac> something like <ijo de la grandissima.. sin onor y sin educaci�n>.

:~))

07-24-05 victorn: wally <cig�e�a> :-) but there are still a few things missing from spanish that have been proposed but unfortunately not approved... jorge --> jorje, guerra --> gerra, do away with the silent h once and for all, etc.

07-24-05 wally: <pax> yewr kvestschen iss not relev�nt. as allreddy mentschend zere are m�nie vords vhich are pronaunzd not akkording to zeir schpelling. vee zerefohr kannot �dtschast auer schpelling in ze vay a vord iss pronaunzd. z�t iss against oll law oond order. beseids, iff yew kommit zat krime oond iff konvicktid yew mait f�is m�nie yiers in prisen :~)

07-24-05 wally: <victor: <as you know this statement would be heresy in a language like spanish, as pronunciation goes along with spelling>> that is what i appreciated most when taking my first spanish lessons many years ago! i still remember when the teacher pointed out that the spanish word for "stork" spelled <cig�e�a> does not contain the german umlaut <�> but is meant to clarify the pronunciation.

07-24-05 victorn: paxy Yu didnt anser my Qvestschun, Herr Doktor. German is sertenly far mor fonetik than Inglish.

you have been living too long in spain... btw, why don't you post at coloresmembers anymore?

07-24-05 victorn: wally, ONLY CLOWNS...

consider that the people who write these articles have probably never lived in countries or regions where the U.S. has played an active role in tearing these countries or regions apart. so it's hard for such people to understand why there is so much hate towards the u.s. govt around the world.

07-24-05 victorn: wally, pronunciation is no reason why a word should be written in an incorrect way.

as you know this statement would be heresy in a language like spanish, as pronunciation goes along with spelling, no exceptions. btw, i didn't know that english was allowed on this board. :-))

07-24-05 PaxWax: Yu didnt anser my Qvestschun, Herr Doktor. German is sertenly far mor fonetik than Inglish.

07-24-05 wally: <<PaxWax>: I am talking about PRONUNCIATION>

me too! pronunciation is no reason why a word should be written in an incorrect way. or do you suggest one should write <Woostershur Soss> instead of <Worcestershire Sauce>?

a zillion words exist in english, german and other languages where spelling does not indicate the pronunciation. either one knows or one doesn't know.

<In other news, I have posted an article, <<Why Do They Hate Us?> Not Because of Iraq>>

only clowns think <they> hate us because of Iraq. only clowns think <they> envy our 'freedom'. only clowns think <they> want to destroy our way of life.

ONLY CLOWNS HAVE NO F@CKING IDEA WHAT THE REAL REASON IS!

07-24-05 wally: <jetzt treffe ich mich mit Freund cciano auf ein Bier> jo gopferdammi. unn ich han n�t emol � ainzigs Fl�schli im K�hlschrank!

07-24-05 Patient-Trader: Iraq: This is now an unwinnable conflict - As he completes another tour of duty in the chaos of Iraq, award-winning reporter Patrick Cockburn charts how Bush and Blair's 'winnable war' turned into a mess that is inspiring a worldwide insurgency

The suicide bombing campaign in Iraq is unique. Never before have so many fanatical young Muslims been willing to kill themselves, trying to destroy those whom they see as their enemies. <On a single day in Baghdad this month 12 bombers blew themselves up.> <There have been more than <500> suicide attacks in Iraq over the last year.>

It is this campaign which has now spread to Britain and Egypt. The Iraq war has radicalised a significant part of the Muslim world. Most of the bombers in Iraq are non-Iraqi, but the network of sympathisers and supporters who provide safe houses, money, explosives, detonators, vehicles and intelligence is home-grown.

The shrill denials by Tony Blair and Jack Straw that hostility to the invasion of Iraq motivated the bombers are demonstrably untrue. The findings of an investigation, to be published soon, into 300 young Saudis, caught and interrogated by Saudi intelligence on their way to Iraq to fight or blow themselves up, shows that very few had any previous contact with al-Qa'ida or any other terrorist organisation previous to 2003. It was the invasion of Iraq which prompted their decision to die http://news.independent.co.uk/world...

07-24-05 PaxWax: I am talking about PRONUNCIATION and don't care if the words exist or not. How would you personally distinguish between the pronunciation of "Hase" and "Hasse?" In other news, I have posted an article, <<Why Do They Hate Us?> Not Because of Iraq> at the following location: http://www.bradynet.com/bbs/asia/10...

07-24-05 Hase: @<argonauti> wir sind neulich von Waldhut kommend Richtung Schaffhausen und weiter Richtung Singen gefahren. Vor Schaffhausen ist eine sch�ne l�ndliche Gegend - rechtsrheinisch. Einzigster Pferdefu�, das Kernkraftwerk Kaiseraugst ist in Sichtweite. Die Gegend ist aber wundersch�n. D�rfte auch preislich akzeptabel sein. Die Autobahn Singen-Stuttgart sowie das Autobahnst�ck Richtung L�rrach sind in unmittelbarer N�he. Und in Schaffhausen �ber die Br�cke die schweizer Autobahn.

07-24-05 Hase: <"Waldhase" and "Waldhasse"> as simple as that <Pax>

a <Hase> living in a forest is a <"Waldhase">. a <Hase> living in the field is a <"Feldhase">. But a <"Waldhasse"> does not exist.

07-24-05 Patient-Trader: Wally, you dont understand, 27-year-old brasilian electrician <Jean Charles de Menezes> was of course highly suspicious:

The BBC's correspondent in Brazil, Tom Gibb, said Mr Menezes had lived for a time in a slum district of Sao Paulo and that could explain why he had run from the police.

He said: "The murder rates in some of these slums are worse than in a lot of war zones and that could explain why, when plain clothes officers pulled a gun on him, he may have run away." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/...

Any decent European would of course patiently wait to be robbed when threatened by a civilian with a gun - no doubt the guy deserves to be shot.

07-24-05 Cciano: <jetzt treffe ich mich mit Freund cciano auf ein Bier> die betonung liegt auf EIN bier, der junge muss ja noch fahren :-(((

07-24-05 PaxWax: Futfahrersprache <"RAUS"> but isn't H�ssisch a litle NORTHERN for your taste? Meine Frage ist: Would you pronounce "H�ssisch" and "H�sisch" the same way? And is there a distinction in your dialect between "Waldhase" and "Waldhasse" ??? For Austrians no difference, but for "Farbencouleurs"?

07-24-05 nautilus: Erst drei Tage im gelobten Land...und meine Erwartungen werden �bertroffen. Respekt vor diesen R�tlis ist angebracht. Die Gesellschaft wirkt geschlossen, aber der Umgang mit Ausl�ndern ist offen und zuvorkommend. Ich h�tte es nicht erwartet, aber die sind gegen�ber Deutschen sehr aufgeschlossen; �berhaupt werkeln im Service Ossis an allen Ecken und Enden. Diese Leute werden gelobt, weil sie drei Dinge tun: sie sind fleissig, sie passen sich an und sie zahlen Steuern.

Wobei das Letztere das Entscheidende ist: Ausl�nder sind willkommen. Aber unter einer Bedingung: sie haben hier Steuern zu ZAHLEN. Anders bekanntlich ja in Bunsenrepublik: die zu uns kommen, die kommen, um Steuergelder zu KASSIEREN!

Alle anderen Klischees von der Alpenrepublik sind keine Klischees, sondern tats�chlich so. Den einzigen Hundehaufen, den wir gesehen haben, der lag auf einem Feldweg.

So, und nun Schluss, jetzt treffe ich mich mit Freund cciano auf ein Bier.

07-24-05 ozymiani: <wally><double consonants do not exist in arabic>

big deal

do they have an alphabet at all?

07-24-05 wally: <pax <all of which pronounce a single intervocalic "s" as "Z">> it drives me nucking futs when i see the 'futfahrer' spellings in german newspapers and magazines, e.g.:

"General Dschagdschit (Jagjit) Singh erkl�rte..."

"der manisch-depressive <User Oswald Mein-Arschloch> ist in Dschidda (Jeddah) nicht willkommen da..."

"Scharm al-Scheich"

"El Kaida"

for your information in proper german pronunciation "s" is NOT pronounced as "z" except by certain cavemen, hailing from some part of the german northern wilderness, who also pronounce "st" as "s-t" or "sp" as "s-p" when at the beginning of a word.

:~))

07-24-05 PaxWax: Wally, to be fair, Madrasa would be a correct spelling in Spanish or the Scandinavian languages, but not in Italian, German, French or Portuguese, all of which pronounce a single intervocalic "s" as "Z" ~ I believe all Western nations have laws which would allow shutting these places down if the incite racial hatred and strife. Even Musharraf is getting the message at last, but it could cost him his life. Too bad we can't shut <OOZY> down using the same laws.

07-24-05 wally: <...moves to Brazil> you undeducated dummy think that Brazil is a country located in South-East Asia? and that's what they taught you in geography? no wonder that "Consilia" clients consist exclusively of little old ladies which can be easily cheated by advising them on "political risks".

by the way double consonants do not exist in arabic and as far as i know neither do they exist in hebrew. so try in future to write "madrasa" instead of "madrassa". slowly but surely i am going to educate you (up to that certain bare minimum your inbred gray cells are able to absorb). like it or not. that of course is limited till that time when a sympathetic soul puts the well deserved bullet in your neck to end your sufferings.

:~)))

07-24-05 ozymiani: by the way: <val-allah> moves to Brazil, and within six months <brazilian plumbers> begin getting shot in London because they run away from police officers while attired like kamikazes...

... uhm...

did you already set up a Madrassa in your neighbourhood, <wally>?

07-24-05 ozymiani: <the police regrets>,<Celso Amorim is on his way to London to get an explanation from foreign secretary Jack Straw>

the <explanation> runs as follows: <better safe than sorry. Saludos amigos>.

07-23-05 wally: <muslim terrorist slaughtered like a pig> according to the report of a wellknown <omaficker and wichser> who <provides industrialists and traders with knowledge on the economy, markets, information, international politics, risk management.>

<<<A man shot dead by police hunting the bombers behind Thursday's London attacks <was a Brazilian electrician> unconnected to the incidents.

The man, who died at Stockwell Tube on Friday, has been named by police as Jean Charles de Menezes, 27.

Scotland Yard said Mr Menezes, who lived in Brixton, south London, was completely unconnected to the bomb attacks and added: "For somebody to lose their life in such circumstances is a tragedy and one that the Metropolitan Police Service regrets."

The Brazilian government has expressed its shock at the killing and Brazil's foreign minister Celso Amorim is on his way to London to get an explanation from foreign secretary Jack Straw.>>>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/...

07-23-05 Cciano: the best compliments are those that one takes by himself, jajajajaja keep on, good joke!

07-23-05 ozymiani: <wally><uneducated>

considering WHAT you muslim consucker consider "education", I'll take that as a huge compliment

07-23-05 wally: <ozy> has a <complexion> besides his inferiority <complexes>? actually he shouldn't worry too much as these <complexes> exist only in his mind. the fact remains that he IS indeed <inferior> and he demonstrates his <inferiority> with his uneducated postings.

:~)))

07-22-05 Patient-Trader: Osvaldo, given your complexion it could be rather the case that some eager police officers honor you with a bullet. The only obstacle for this outcome is that you cannot afford train, underground or bus tickets.

07-22-05 Cciano: ozy, spr�cken sie doitsch, plies. das ist eine krautforum.

07-22-05 wally: looking at <Omaficksites> and then masturbating in a dark corner is <oozer's> problem.

:~)))

07-22-05 La Lupa: Whassamatta Oozy Baby? Barbie doll bite your finger? Your boyfriend left you? Overdosed on jelly-babies? Bad breath? Because people who write "a bullet is waiting for..." somebody risk getting hauled into court or by the Westminster & Chelsea Thought Police. There may be a cell waiting for you with your arm tattoo etched on it (Inch'allah). The police read these things now, haven't you heard?

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