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Posted by mtlbroker (Friday, September 29, 2006)
How to run a CON like Mayer Etkin
1. Set up a couple of Nevada or California corporations.

2. Give them DBA's like Barclays Investments or Rothchilds Trust.

3. Go and find some "investors" with $100,000 (atleast)

4. Pitch them how their 100K can be leveraged into millions with some bogus offshore loan, or equity in a gold mine in China.

5. Get the 100K in your fake escrow account and confirm it by phone.

6. Explain how they are going to make millions

7. Say you are going to a meeting in China

8. Don't come back

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10-01-06  Hardcase1: Poltroon*

10-01-06  Hardcase1: Mtlbroker,

The MTN sales are moving along just fine. I "repost" to keep the offers in the top portion. Can you really be this fatuous?

YFOS,

I don't know what you meant to imply with your statement about directions but I forgive you for being the benighted poltron you have been.


10-01-06  NZFinance: Mayer has been on this board for a considerable time now, I have not always seen eye to eye with him but I am not convinced he is a scammer either.

Has anyone actually ever paid Meyer a Due Diligence fee directly?

There are a large number of scammers on this board and that is a fact, there are also a large number of people who profess to being professionals and who are not.

I would never accept a direct payment for Due Diligence fees, never will and never have. We only use the threat of upfront fees to keep the fools away, never have ever been paid one nor will I ever be paid one yet on this board I have been accused of scamming, defrauding and every other kind of low moral activity. I can only sympathise with Meyer.

I think it best to realise that people who will commit such crimes have no concern for the law, professionalism or the feelings of others. I ran a campaign called Clean Up Dodge but lets face it, it generated about as much support as a team without a trophy. This board appears to be mainly used to critique others, to spread gossip without fact and to promote the ideas of those whos only true purpose is self publication.

From time to time a reasonable topic appears but this is not one of them.

OK thats me for this month, I have real work to do and none of it with any opportunities for wealth published on this board.

Best of luck Meyer, I admire your persistence.

Graham
OLC


10-01-06  sapphirecapital: yourfullofshit1, no problem here with me or my guys (ups, girls as well) and you have a point, I believe court proceedings are public and there would be file somewhere, but nevermind. The whole discussion is just getting more ridicolous by the hour.

10-01-06  yourfullofshit11: Hey everyone am I really an asshole or what? I just want to take this time to say how sorry I am for calling you guys names, insulting you and bashing you behind your backs. It's just that I'm not loved that's all. Can you guys find it in your hearts to forgive me? Please!!!!

10-01-06  yourfullofshit1: Mtlbroker: yes, he cease and desist orders against him, but does that mean he has been convicted of fraud like you constantly claim and slander him with? If he has cheated people of money and IF he was convicted of fraud, would the SEC not have gone after him for compensation to the people he cheated and be named in many lawsuits? Think about it

10-01-06  mtlbroker: Continue to read your own message. Maybe it will sink in that what you are doing is wrong. If I am telling people to stay away from someone who has twice had cease and desist orders against them, I am providing a service.

By the way: Mayer Etkin is PROHIBITED FROM OFFERING ANY SECURITIES OR LOANS, he has been FOUND GUILTY OF BEING A SLIMEBALL and is a known NON-PERFORMER, FLAKE and MORON.

You try to cheat people out of money, you're just too stupid to get away with it.


10-01-06  yourfullofshit1: mtlbroker: well, I think you might be headed in the same direction as hardcase1. How many times do you need to lie?

10-01-06  Hotdog: hardcase1, Mtlbroker's problem is that he or she doesn't even know the legal definition of "fraud" or its context.

So mtlbroker, pay attention now. The definition of your actions in this forum are prima facie evidence of your "fraudulent intent". "Fraudulent intent" is defined by Blacks Law Dictionary as follows: "Such intent exists where one either with a view of benefiting himself or misleading another into a course of action, makes a representation which he knows to be false or which he does not believe to be true." (I don't think you are that dumb to actually believe your own bullshit about the outright lies, false allegations and false claims that you make against me, and if you do, then you are even a bigger moron and fool than you come across as being!)

"Fraud" is defined by Blacks Law Dictionary as follows; "An intentional perversion of truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable consideration or to surrender a legal right. A false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and intends to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal injury. Any kind of artifice employed by one person to deceive another.

Elements of a cause of action for fraud include false representation of a present or past fact made by defendant,action in reliance thereupon by plaintiff, and damage resulting to plaintiff from misrepresentation.

Based on those definitions above from Blacks Law Dictionary, it is clear to any reader of the topics in this forum that you Sir or Madame with your own words have convicted yourself of not only "fraudulent intent" but of "fraud" and as prima facie evidence of that fact all one has to do is look at what you say in your comments.

Now let's contrast your misleading statements, and false allegations against me with the truth of what I do and how the process of making a deal actually works in reality. I make it perfectly clear to whomever that I deal with that a confidentiality agreement is required. That agreement enables both parties to engage in a mutual and focused due diligence process inclusive of asking any questions that either party may wish to ask.

Neither party may not like some of the answers that are given but at least they know that the answers will be truthful. Depending on what if any issues those answers bring out in the discussions between the parties, those issues are dealt with privately and appropriately. That is neither deception nor concealment on either side, but simple disclosure on a private basis, and you know something it works; quite effectively as the parties are happy with it.

So, if any qualified investor of financial professional wants to know the truth about Mayer Etkin, all they need to do is call Mayer Etkin at 206-723-9353 or send an email to capsol@comcast.net sign off on a confidentiality agreement and then let a focused professional and mutual due diligence process commence.


10-01-06  mtlbroker: Did you pay someone to write that for you? Suddenly you have the prose of a poet. If I was grading your paper, I'd bet you're cheating. But how goes those MTN sales!!! I see that you've cried wolf so many times that you have to repost your offers ad infinitum.

10-01-06  Hardcase1: Mtlbroker,

I stand corrected on both fronts. Perhaps I should have use predilection or propensity or but spelling errors aside you are still the biggest BS'ter here. No one could be so bored where they come to a forum such as this in search of "entertainment". Perhaps a page out of my book is in order. I would much rather admit to seeking my entertainment in books such as Where's Waldo or the Harry Potter series then to have made such an obviously libertine statement that you only come here for entertainment you prevaricating feign.


10-01-06  mtlbroker: Hardcase1:

Perhaps a little trip to the dictionary would also be in order for you.

Penchant, not pension, you half brained fantasy mongerer.

If you're going to try to show your superiority, aquaint yourself with a book other than Where's Waldo.


10-01-06  mtlbroker: Dear Mayer:

Fraud = to obtain financial gain by lies and deception. I want no money from anyone, especially you (though raising more than $20.00 is probably out of your perview).

The only one that is being hurt in this equation is your ability to defraud. Which is actually doing the rest of the world a favor!


10-01-06  Hotdog: hardacase1, first of all it is spelled "Machiavellian”, second; this absurd topic is ironically a perfect illustration of the perpetration of the fraudulent intent of mtlbrokr123 by the very nature of its false contents and false premises and false allegations.

Mtlbroker123 nee moneybroker123, nee fund1970, nee honestbroker,etc. has absolutely no idea of the legal consequences of his or her posting of this topic as well as the posting of his or her other defamatory comments and false allegations against me. He or she may think that he or she is here for entertainment purposes, but others are here for the opportunity to meet people with whom they can possibly do some real business with.

mtlbroker123, will soon find out that abusing an internet forum to stalk, harass and falsely accuse someone comes at a severe price.

Mayer Etkin can be reached at 206-723-9353 or via email to capsol@comcast.net


10-01-06  Hardcase1: Mtlbroker,

Your "little search" has nothing to do with your claims of mere spectatorship and what adds up to an otherwise boring existance given your pension for finding entetainment in the contents of some of these offers. I guess this could also explain how "reality" may escape you. In most businesses a buyer buys to sell. Buy low sell high, it is the "American" way.

Perhaps you can explain this portion of your of your statement to me.:

"I don't see a great deal of reality from you, but I am sure you'd like to let people believe other wise"

I must be missing something. What purpose would it serve me to pretend? Would this be for me to adorn some sort of cyber preeminence given that none of the offers are real and all of the brokers are jokers, according to you? What would be the point? There is nothing makavelian about my purpose for being here, the offers I have or the business relationships I persue.


10-01-06  mtlbroker: Hardcase1:

I did a little seaching on you, and the veracity of your statements, leaves much to be desired.

You are buying and selling the same thing, so I don't see a great deal of reality from you, but I am sure you'd like to let people believe other wise.


10-01-06  Hardcase1: MTlbroker,

You don't have to come here for entertainment if your idea of entertainment are these so-called ridiculous offers. You can find the same thing in the real world. Frauds, scams, uneducated brokers in the mortgage, banking and securities business are just as prevalent outside of this forum. People like you who try to pass themselves off as novelist, not really into this but just sorta hanging around to be "entertained" and to see what happens are the biggest BS'ers in the forum. I mean if you really have nothing else to do with your life then I feel for you.

As far as your statement about not being able to meet anyone with millions here, well I can personally say that you are dead wrong. This forum and the others like it without a doubt have tons of garbage being shoveled daily. But you can find garbage and BS offers in your daily news paper. While you may be correct that there are brokers bashing one and other there is also some education being offered and contrary to your beliefs on occassion some real business is actually transacted.


10-01-06  yourfullofshit1: What makes you think you're the first one to say that on this board. Its been covered so many times, the cows have come home.

09-30-06  mtlbroker: Think about this:

Based on the number of ridiculous offers what person with millions of dollars would even contemplate looking for business opportunities here. This board is just a bunch of jokers bashing into each other, dreaming of a payday.

There is money to be made in this world, lots of it, but its not being done on this board especially not with a 15/10 bonus to the euro.

The horsesh*t spewed about on this board is incredibly entertaining, but is no closer to reality than me banging Scarlett Johannson.


09-30-06  fund1970: The following should be added about Mayer's scam

TO THOSE REAL PLAYERS AND VISITORS WHO WANT TO GET RID OF SCAM

Be careful before you send money to this guy, Mayer Etkin.

How a man run his SCAMS? He gives peopole lesson about offshore finance, trade, investments etc. and scams them out of their money in the name of due dilligence, setting up deals, positionting a deal. He claims to be a principal when he has nothing. He is running his scam business form his mother's basement.

All of his postings are to SCAM people for $100,000.00 or more. All of his postings had previously prepared and also posted ,nothing new. He wants money from people different ways. Sometimes he changes the amount from $100,000.00 to other figures. But the same thing SCAM, SCAM , and SCAM.

People who speak against him or his alleged SCAM will become the moron, flakes etc. He calls them with these names. Well anything said against him is an off topic issue and not a good due dilligence according to him.

QUESTION: WHO IS THIS MAN RUNNING THESE KINDS OF SCAM BUSINESS?

ANSWER: MAYER ETKIN.

WHO WILL STOP THIS MAYER ETKIN.


09-30-06  MoneyBroker123: "mtlbroker", speak for yourself !

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09-30-06 mtlbroker: This board is entertainment. There is nothing real here except fraudsters and jokers. Any real player would read the fantasy here and immediately leave. Were it not for greed brokers dreaming of the million dollar lottery, this would be as popular as Milli Vanilli's last album.


09-30-06  yourfullofshit1: then why are you taking it so seriously? Serious Entertainment?

09-30-06  mtlbroker: This board is entertainment. There is nothing real here except fraudsters and jokers. Any real player would read the fantasy here and immediately leave. Were it not for greed brokers dreaming of the million dollar lottery, this would be as popular as Milli Vanilli's last album.

09-30-06  yourfullofshit1: A scumbag like you still has the gall to come back on this board when someone has called your bluff and proved you are nothing but a f---ing liar. You must have no self esteem left. Wow. How low can you go. HAHAHAHA

09-30-06  mtlbroker: YFOS: I am promoting you to the Vice President of sex and music.

That means when I want your fu*king opinion, I'll whistle.


09-30-06  yourfullofshit1: mtlbroker: well, I can say the same about you. You claimed this week that the last days of hotdog will be upon us, but I still see him around, Why don't you provide proof of what your meeting with the authorities? Does this mean you're a liar too?

Whatever he did or didn't do, his address is available for all to see. If he did commit fraud, i'm sure the police will come knocking on his door very soon. At least you can reach him via email and address, unlike most of the people on this board, including me.


09-30-06  mtlbroker: Sapphire:

I suggest you read about Mr. Etkin, a quick search will show you what this "man" is made of. He's a scammer, just not a bright enough one to get away with it (hence the government orders against him).

He's stated that he's in "negotiations" with these government agencies, but offers not a word of proof that he is.

He represents everything that is wrong with this industry. He masquerades as a professional, but the only thing on his mind is how he can get money out of the investor to line his pockets.


09-30-06  sapphirecapital: So because he does not have the money you are allowed to insult him. For whatever reason you are pursueing this war, if you are not coming up with details and data why and what this whole behaviour is presented in a forum in a fashion which not only violates the rules of the forum (yes, I remember reading that in the FAQ of the forum) then you are not any better than a querulatory bad mouthing individual. Frankly both of you express a style which is not anymore funny and I wish you would show some professionalism. Bad mouthing is not only bad style it is illegal if presented in the way you do, even if you have reasons for your hatred.

I have no idea why you push the issue without ever presenting the facts, any lawyer could tell you that you manoeuver yourself in a bad spot, and by the way it does not take much money to push the issue against you, there are plenty of lawyers in the US with nothing better to do than pursuing a lawsuit.

I do not know either of you, never done business with either of you and probably never will, but you are using an open forum and it reflects bad on the forum in my opinion.


09-29-06  mtlbroker: Mayer couldn't afford the retainer for a lawyer. But if you give him 100K, he will be glad to go after anyone you want.

09-29-06  DD Report: Tony:

Greetings. Fully agree with you. There are two actually situation. mtlbroker do have evidence in his/her hands against Hotdog or even he/she want to start a "Private War" using Brady Forum as base for communication.

If mtlbroker do have evidence against hotdog why he/she don't share this with all members and we know from this date on that Hotdog is offering his service illegal. But the question is why mtlbroker want to start a “Private War” and what are his/her principal real motive? Until today I did not find any answer on this question.

DD Report


09-29-06  yourfullofshit1: Hotdog: why don't you keep us up-to-date on your slander lawsuit with 2109. I believe you still have his name, address and phone number. If you want, I can post it again.

09-29-06  Tony CE: Uhhhh..... You better have a good defense lawyer. If I were "hotdog" I would print a copy of this post, show it to my attorney and take you to the cleaners!

Not a smart move on your part.

Tony CE


09-29-06  FoxNews: I think your post is out of order. You can agree or disagree with another user, take up or not take up his services...but why deride him?

What makes you so special. Let's see you put up some services AND WE WILL ALL TAKE POT-SHOTS AT YOU...see how you like it!


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